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OkamiJubei Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2018
*Facepalms* Of course... why haven't I thought of that before.
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Havenhold Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2018  Hobbyist Artist
omg cant wait for more! keep up the good work!!
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Haarkie Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2018
can somebody please refresh my memeory on whos flash drive was it?
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Haarkie Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2018
damn i butcher those last words
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GlitchSamo21 Featured By Owner May 28, 2018
Guess that Flash sure put some sloth in you, eh?
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Klesk-Vadrigaar Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2018
The mystery and the sexual tension deepen in equal measure, which in turn leaves me a shivering wreck knowing how long I'll have to wait for the next part.

Dammit, I WISH I could write suspense this well.
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Anvasan Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2018  Hobbyist
Dang it, how can this still be so interesting, love the design, love the character development, love the storytelling, I love it all, I don't know how can I support TheWyvernsWeaver, for i have not any means to, so i guess I can just share this content, just for now.
(btw sorry for bad English)
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OldDisneyFanatic Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2018
Another intriguing piece! Loved it!
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ReaderNo31142 Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2018  Hobbyist Artist
Awesome new artwork, sir :dummy:
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ArtenReichtum Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2018
Thanks for the next part
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clebinho75 Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2018
Cant figure out the last square...
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FoxfangJohn0056 Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2018
ReynHARD? Rienhardt must have forgotten to delete his Porn Vid, I guess...
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Trentonlee1987 Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2018
It's crazy how you keep making comics like this in sync with the story! Your work is the best Zootopia art I can possibly find, and you definitely have a talent, if that already wasn't obvious :J Keep it up!
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daria102205 Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2018  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Your work is fabulous!  Can't wait for the 18.2!!  :happybounce: 
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morpheuskibbe Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2018  Student General Artist
not sure if i like this or hereafter better.  I like the comic format to be sure though sometimes the insertion of movie quotes / puns has seemed a little forced.  In this chapter it works just fine but some other lines in older pages remember thinking sounded. odd
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juantriforce Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
AMAZING AS ALWAYS!!!! The tension never stop increasing!
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jonboysatterwhite Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2018
Great work. Love the story line. Art work is amazing. Can't wait for the next part.
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Ladyofthemadhouse Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2018  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
YESSS111 I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIIISSSSS FOR SP LOOONG!!!!
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demonfox5132 Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2018
I'm disappointed in you judy we all know you have lust on Nick gotta let out little bit of it ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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evg-zhabotinsky Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2018
Um. Not that I'm really complaining, but they were talking about a flash card back at Flash's bunker ("that can be played on your phone", even), not a mini-DVD or whatever it is Judy is holding in one of the panels here. (Honestly, I only noticed that after it was called first a "flash card" and then a "tiny disk" just 2 paragraphs later in the text version, right after I've seen the comic strip.)

P.S. I thought just now... Was that Flash card a pun?
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TheWyvernsWeaver Featured By Owner Edited Mar 16, 2018  Student Digital Artist
The digital storage Flash hands off is a very advanced optical disk, there's not much reason to it beyond trying to highlight the pun, because Flash is a joker like that. XD
And smartphones can certainly read it, all it takes is to scan the disk to download the contents.
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evg-zhabotinsky Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2018
  .  .  .

Just admit it, you thought that an optical disc would look cooler, or at least be more recognizable, than a lame microSD.
(And forgot that you earlier stated explicitly that it was the latter, or even ignored that fact.)

Their camera technology can't be anywhere near scanning gigabytes of data off the disc and still fitting inside a phone, even with how high-tech their civilization is.
And there's no bucking way an iPhone (that's what her phone is supposed to look like) would ever include an optical drive, even microSD slot is a stretch.
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evg-zhabotinsky Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2018
No hostility intended. And of course I don't claim to know the AU better than you two, the idea of reading optical disc by taking a photo just seemed too silly to be a serious answer. (Dropping the second paragraph of my reply might have been more appropriate, though.)
I'm not really complaining either. There are tons of much worse unrealistic (in terms of science, not reader perception) tech moments in movies that serve little to no purpose, while here I see several reasons to draw an optical disc instead of a flash drive.

As soon as you appeal to real world physics and existing tech, however, I'm obliged to say that I think that you are wrong. I am techie and I do have reasonable understanding of physics behind tech.

Li-Fi may be a thing, true. (I haven't heard of it before, by the way. Thanks!) However, it isn't directly related. For disc to act as a Li-Fi transmitter, you would have to scan it with a laser and measure reflected light. Not only will diffraction, vibrations and atmospheric scattering make minimum possible size of single bit impractically large, you will also have a really hard time measuring minuscule amounts of light that returns after those still tiny bits scatter incoming beam. Making each bit be a little corner reflector would help with that, but they would be a nightmare to manufacture. And that all is for "conventional" single-layer recording, with resulting bit densities similar to ordinary CDs or maybe less. Good old IrDA would be a more fitting analogy then Li-Fi for those. If you want to store multiple bits at the same location and receive them over several light frequencies, you will also need a material that can be "burned" to only reflect specific frequencies, most likely a separate chemical for each frequency. All in all, I think such tech would never take off because it would be too expensive and unreliable compared to "conventional" rotational optical drives, with scanning from distance being the only "benefit". Also, microSD cards already have costs per GB close to BD-RE discs and will be getting even cheaper with Samsung's multilayer flash technology and similar, while HDDs are much cheaper already.

As for wireless electronic disks, I was replying specifically to "a very advanced optical disc" so it's unrelated. Even so, the shape would be purely aesthetic in this case, thus that round disc with a hole would be a "nostalgia edition" one.  xD

Oh, and we don't have any BestBuys around here.
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Kulkum Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2018  Professional Writer
Frankly, I'm not even going to read that whole thing because there is no point after seeing you say "As soon as you appeal to real-world physics and existing tech." That's not how fiction works, you realize? I mean... Was I not clear when I stated that Zootopia in Sunderance is more advanced than we are? And the fact that you had no idea that Li-Fi even existed until I told you proves that you are no expert on what is and is not existing tech anyway.

You continue to try to assume that futurized technology has to function according to rules that you, personally, have set into place. I did nothing more than offer examples of how said technology might work based on similar technology that already exists in our world. Do I know how it works, exactly? Did I, as the writer of a fan comic, think to go into full detail on the technical specs of a piece of technology that would literally change the world of computing as we know it?

Of course not. If I could do that, I would just design the thing myself and be richer than Bill Gates. But just because I cannot - and I assume you cannot either, since you're arguing the blunter points of technology as if things can't exist simply because you can't imagine they exist - doesn't mean that it might not and likely will at some point in the future.

And frankly, saying that "If it can't be done with today's real-world tech, it doesn't belong" is like saying that Star Wars is a bad series because we haven't developed Light Sabers or Hyper-Drive yet.

I mean, be honest with yourself: you must be delightful at the movies if you nitpick about future tech because it doesn't work in your obviously-stuck-firmly-in-the-present mind. Either way, your intent on saying that everything needs to conform to your idea of technology means that there is no real reason to continue this conversation further. We do accept criticism, but only when they make sense. Trying to criticize the fact that we're displaying future technology that doesn't exist means that the entire Sci-Fi genre can go screw itself.

Thanks for reading, though. :)
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evg-zhabotinsky Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2018
Okay... Let's take a closer look, shall we?

Frankly, I'm not even going to read that whole thing
Is it really that long? xD

because there is no point after seeing you say "As soon as you appeal to real-world physics and existing tech." <...> Zootopia in Sunderance is more advanced than we are <...> And frankly, saying that "If it can't be done with today's real-world tech, it doesn't belong" is like saying that Star Wars is a bad series because we haven't developed Light Sabers or Hyper-Drive yet.
we have already developed this exact technology. It simply hasn't been implemented yet.
I'm not really complaining either. There are tons of much worse unrealistic (in terms of science, not reader perception) tech moments in movies that serve little to no purpose, while here I see several reasons to draw an optical disc instead of a flash drive.
The second quote is what I have been replying to. I was not trying to say anything from the first quote. The third is what should have made that clear, and also where I said that I don't mind artistic license. One thing that annoys me is applying artistic license for no good reason, like characters typing whole texts without using spacebar at all, and it's not the case here.

And the fact that you had no idea that Li-Fi even existed until I told you proves that you are no expert on what is and is not existing tech anyway.
It proves nothing. One cannot know everything. (Also, Li-Fi is more or less PON over the air, and I knew how PON works for a while.) I bet you didn't know that Holographic Versatile Disk already existed as a prototype with 3.9TB capacity per DVD-sized disk, and expected limit is 6TB. The thing is, you need precisely positioned lasers and sensors close to disc surface to read any existing optical disks, and I tried to explain why remote reading would be too hard for how pointless it is.

Did I <...> think to go into full detail on the technical specs of a piece of technology that would literally change the world of computing as we know it? <...> If I could do that, I would just design the thing myself and be richer than Bill Gates.
I don't think it would change the world, It's kinda pointless. Also, I think you skipped a few steps in the end. Like actually building the thing, making it actually work, making it work reliably, making it mass-producible... Those things tend to be more complex than expected and are what usually chokes new tech. Knowing how something works in principle may help estimate the limits of technology, but it's not nearly enough to make anything work. I know how a fully 3D holographic display could work, and I know for a fact that it can be made real in less than a decade, but I'm highly skeptic that they really will be prototyped that soon, let alone commercially available, and at best I will take part in it as an R&D member at Samsung for example because it would cost a crapton of money to actually build anything, and it won't even work well for the first few prototypes.

As for "nitpicking future tech", you may notice that I said nothing about your holograms yet. And I wasn't intending to, since they are "realistic" in terms of reader perception, and are most certainly a proper use of artistic license. You can read how existing holograms work on Wikipedia or elsewhere, and I'd rather use the name "volumetric display" for what you call holograms. Something similar already exists, too. Only no one has any idea how to make such air-based volumetric displays do anything with light that reaches them, like reflecting or absorbing it, and the only current way of emitting light in "normal" atmosphere is creating small balls of plasma... Noisy and really, really hot balls of plasma. Nick-would-be-fried-and-dead-when-Jack-approaches kind of hot. But I'm not complaining, because who cares? Not me at least.
I only wrote about the flash/optical disk inconsistency because I thought it was a mishap, even if intentional. Then I replied because scanning an optical disc with phone camera seemed like the kind of explanation that characters often invent on the spot for comic relief, usually receiving "You're fucking with me?" reply (or just the look), optionally followed by "Nope" and "Whatever". And next I replied to your "we have already developed this exact technology" because we haven't and are unlikely to.

And about my mind being "obviously-stuck-firmly-in-the-present", one cannot be more wrong. I'm just trying to avoid baseless expectations. I eagerly await for Brain-Computer Interfaces to become more powerful and available. I can't wait to put my hands on an AR headset that looks like actual glasses and not a brick on your face. I believe in AI and fully expect multi-TB-sized SD cards and fully 3D displays all over the place before the end of the century. Worldwide high speed broadband through thousands of tiny low-flying satellites is something that might turn out to be economically feasible. I hope that warp drive will be built, but probably not in my lifetime, while I'm pretty sure that graphene-based space elevator will be there in a few decade's time. Actual useful quantum computers are gonna happen, and relatively soon.
Oh, and somewhere in my mind is the idea that our physical world might be just a computer simulation. The Big Bang is exactly how I started my "universe" when I tried writing simulators a few times, and computation optimizations would explain nicely both quantum entanglement and why larger-scale attempts at building quantum computers fail due to loss of coherence. If only we ever managed to hack that simulator from the inside...
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Azdgari Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2018
>their technology is far more advanced than our own
>still use CDs

haha I just couldn't help myself, the argument was too goofy on all sides. Truly, deeply, does anybody really care if it's a flash drive or a disk?

Great chapter as usual, guys. Glad to see the investigation front-and-center; it varies with different stories, but with this one, I do like it most when the central plot is in the driver's seat. Says a lot about how strong that plot is shaping up to be! Some especially nice expressions on Judy this time as well. Keep up the great art and storytelling.
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houndlord Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2018
Lips block
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Cambion-Hunter Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2018
Aside from the investigation being handled well, the tension between the two is still well done. ^^
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TiPoDiRaMartin Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Whoa, getting close there!
Great to see this masterpiece still alive and well.
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Seraph-sama Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2018
What is the last pannel supposed to be?
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evg-zhabotinsky Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2018
Second to last panel here looks very similar, so I guess a similar (if not the same) situation was captured on a video they are watching.
Come to think of it, if yūrei is somehow related to the case it would be one heck of a surprise!
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StoneKeeper Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2018  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"Of course, you haven’t,” he muttered as they turned back to the screen."

-source material :)
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MagicZach Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2018
Lusty Lunar Lapins?
Nice alliteration, but...sexy foxes from the moon? What? Just...what??
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MagicZach Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2018
Crap, I forgot. Brain was fried. It was 2 in the morning.
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evg-zhabotinsky Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2018
Lapins are bunnies not foxes.
Makes much more sense also, since the disk was supposed to be found, if it was found at all, in Judy's possession, and hardly anyone knows that she's into foxes. xD
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WovenTome Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2018
'Lapins' refers to rabbits. 'Vulpines' would be foxes.
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ArchangelImperius Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2018
Great work, it's very interesting!
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Rafael49 Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2018
Love the little naughty moments Love 
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seto862 Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2018
Nicks face after she opened his suit estimate ... says everything on his mind at that moment. 

Internal nick: "Ok I have told her that this is a joint account... I have made it clear that most of the stuff in here is going to be mine... So she wouldn't...... She clicked the only file in the folder  that had my name on it didn't she? Yup she did... does this rabbit have no idea what privacy is?"
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GerPonyFan Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2018
Lusty Lunar Lapins xD
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Gebertunzo Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2018
ALMOST KISS !!))
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ALDAL Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2018  Student Traditional Artist
yep. getting interesting
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EinarWolff Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2018
Things are getting more exciting with every new page. Can wait to see what comes next.
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